http://timoelliott.com/blog/2007/03/the_case_for_independent_busin.html Timo Elliott's Business Analytics Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://timoelliott.com/blog/2007/03/the_case_for_independent_busin.html/comment-page-1#comment-24 dan ros Mon, 13 Aug 2007 06:34:39 +0000 http://192.220.58.236/blog/?p=24#comment-24 very good info! :-) very good info!

]]> http://timoelliott.com/blog/2007/03/the_case_for_independent_busin.html/comment-page-1#comment-23 Timo Elliott Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:22:31 +0000 http://192.220.58.236/blog/?p=24#comment-23 Tom, I wholeheartedly agree... see the <a href="http://www.timoelliott.com/blog/2007/03/bi_20.html" rel="nofollow">posting</a>(s)on BI 2.0 for some of the challenges I believe are coming for "traditional BI". Tom,
I wholeheartedly agree… see the posting(s)on BI 2.0 for some of the challenges I believe are coming for “traditional BI”.

]]> http://timoelliott.com/blog/2007/03/the_case_for_independent_busin.html/comment-page-1#comment-22 Tom Hudock Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:33:21 +0000 http://192.220.58.236/blog/?p=24#comment-22 Excellent post and insights, Timo. I agree with your arguement about independent BI vendors. But. The independent vendors are what I would call traditional - they use their proprietary BI and ETL tools. (the exceptions I know are MS RDL and <a href="http://biforbusinesspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/10-questions-for-michael-matrick.html" rel="nofollow">90 Degree Software</a>) I think the traditional approach has long-term issues, such as not being able to keep up with the changes to a business. And could be on its way out. The trends I'm seeing are companies using SOA/integration products for better efficiencies to ETL loads. Or those that mix-and-match BI tools from various vendors then provide access through a easily accessible portal. Or the argument for BI to be SaaS externally hosted, such as <a href="http://biforbusinesspeople.blogspot.com/2007/02/10-questions-for-chuck-sharp.html" rel="nofollow">Sharp Analytics</a>. I think, and hope, that the BI landscape is more complicated than the vendors would like us to believe. There is more to it than just a vendor-consultant arrangement. I also think BI is ripe for a truely innovative, entrepreneurial idea to disrupt the traditional BI marketplace. That would make things exciting, wouldn't it? Best regards, Tom Excellent post and insights, Timo. I agree with your arguement about independent BI vendors. But.
The independent vendors are what I would call traditional – they use their proprietary BI and ETL tools.
(the exceptions I know are MS RDL and 90 Degree Software)
I think the traditional approach has long-term issues, such as not being able to keep up with the changes to a business. And could be on its way out.
The trends I’m seeing are companies using SOA/integration products for better efficiencies to ETL loads. Or those that mix-and-match BI tools from various vendors then provide access through a easily accessible portal. Or the argument for BI to be SaaS externally hosted, such as Sharp Analytics.
I think, and hope, that the BI landscape is more complicated than the vendors would like us to believe. There is more to it than just a vendor-consultant arrangement.
I also think BI is ripe for a truely innovative, entrepreneurial idea to disrupt the traditional BI marketplace. That would make things exciting, wouldn’t it?
Best regards,
Tom

]]> http://timoelliott.com/blog/2007/03/the_case_for_independent_busin.html/comment-page-1#comment-21 Vincent McBurney Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:49:27 +0000 http://192.220.58.236/blog/?p=24#comment-21 That's a great post and I enjoyed your pictures, though I'm not sure what the flying saucers are doing. I like the independent BI vendors because they try hard to be compatible with a wide range of databases and partners, this makes them more flexible and transportable. I think there is a reason the big BI vendors have a bigger market share than the BI attempts from IBM, Oracle and Informatica. There has been a massive push for enterprise search from vendors (IBM and Yahoo, Fast, Google, Oracle) and this should fix up some of the chronic search problems in old company intranets and the frustration of having to search through a lot of repositories and applications for information. That’s a great post and I enjoyed your pictures, though I’m not sure what the flying saucers are doing. I like the independent BI vendors because they try hard to be compatible with a wide range of databases and partners, this makes them more flexible and transportable. I think there is a reason the big BI vendors have a bigger market share than the BI attempts from IBM, Oracle and Informatica.
There has been a massive push for enterprise search from vendors (IBM and Yahoo, Fast, Google, Oracle) and this should fix up some of the chronic search problems in old company intranets and the frustration of having to search through a lot of repositories and applications for information.

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